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September 2004 Post Marketing Report

 
19809 From: <kings1978@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:47am
Subject: Re: 2 1/2 years after Cipro

Thank you very much for this report. We all need to hear
things like this. It took me over a yr to get somewhere near
normal after the first onslaught of FQ, and a bit longer to recover
from the second symptomatic exposure. I still live with some
symptoms but like you I have an active "management" program,
don't over-extend myself, and DON'T take any drugs.

19810 From: sdowns1122 <smd71@h...>
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:24pm
Subject: Just stopped levaquin today

glad this forum is here. i've been on levaquin for prostatitis for
about 2 wks now. about 4-5 days ago i started getting pain in my
calves, but i thought it was because of playing softball. then my
elbows started to ache a bit, and i thought it was because of my
workouts. but today i finally figured out something wasn't right and
after reading up on the side effects, i called my dr and he said to
stop taking it and talk to him in a couple of days. now i'm just a
bit worried that i've done irreparable damage to myself. my calves
hurt enough that i can't run, but i can still walk around with
minimal pain. i just hope this pain is something that diminishes with
time, but reading everything online makes me think i'll have to deal
with it for a while...and that pisses me off a bit to say the least.
anyway, just glad this is here to express what i'm going through.
-Linda


19817 From: carolhorton12 <carolthorton@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:00pm
Subject: Re: Just stopped levaquin today

I, too, took levaquin for 2 weeks. After 4 days my ankles got sore
but, like you, I thought I was just stiff so I kept exercising. That
was precisely the WRONG THING to do, and I ended up 2 weeks later
rupturing both of my achilles tendons. Had I been warned by the doc
that problems with achilles were a possible ADR I would have stopped
exercising immediately and probably with a little time the problem
would have gone away. So what I'm trying to say is: take it VERY
easy for awhile - don't walk any more than you absolutely need to
until the pain goes away.
Carol

19819 From: <WAlakhdar@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:48pm
Subject: heading into surgery

Hi:
This is Mary in CT. It has been since February of this year that I was
floxed, and as some symptoms have steadied themselves and backed off a little,
the worst left remaining are the problem of sleep, the sweating, and the
ligaments of my left knee.

I recently, finally!, got an MRI of the left knee (we will do one of the
right knee after we take care of the left). I knew going into the MRI that they
would find something severely wrong because of the excrutiating pain. As it
turns out, I have a torn meniscus disk. The doc said he couldn't tell from
the MRI if the tendons are damaged. Maybe that is because I am overweight?
But I am now scheduled to have the surgery to "clean up the area" on October
4th. I am nervous about it for several reasons......1. going "under"
scares me
2. further
damaging and irritating the tendons
3. recovery while
having lyme disease and babesia
I don't know if anyone out there has had this "arthroscopic" procedure done,
and how it turned out of course.
Advice? Suggestions? Concerns?
Please, all are welcome.
Mary

19820 From: John Edward Roe <angelbab@s...>
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:52pm
Subject: Re: Re: Just stopped levaquin today

Hi, I am a fellow Levaquin and Cipro survivor, and I too have had the achilles tendon pain with rupturing, as well as a torn plantar fascia on the bottom of my right foot. This all initially began back in April of 2000, and then last summer, of 2003, began with severe right ankle pain, and back to the doc who put me in air casts on both legs to settle them down. Went to 2 specialized surgeons, for the achilles tendons, and neither would touch me. Told me to wean out of the casts, but to keep them handy in case I needed them again, and you know what, jus this past week, the ankle is starting up again, so it appears that I will have to go back in my casts at least temporarily. I have been in two hard casts, as well as long black braces/boots and now the air casts, which feel the best...all because of the tendons. I had shoulder surgery last January, for a torn tendon and a spur, and I still am not over it...so I don't recommend surgery unless it has to be done no matter what. You
are right, however, in recommending little use of the legs and feet. I have a wheelchair and crutches and a quad cane, as well as a walker, so I am fixed up, but hate to use them unless I have no choice. There sure are lots of us out here....good luck! NR

19822 From: kardok69 <kardok69@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:35pm
Subject: friend suffering

My friend has been suffering from an adverse reaction to Levaquin
clonazepam and other quinolone drugs since january 2004
all over a severe ear infection that started off normallyand has
recently gotten to the point of his life`s work suffering loss of
any and all common sense with what is happenning to him.
we`ve been to allergists, doctor after doctor and they keep pushing
more different drugs on him.
somebody has got to have an answer I can`t stand seeing this man
wither away PLEASE HELP!!!!!

19823 From: michaelbeans2003 <michaelbeans@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:50pm
Subject: Cipro and Dystonia, my story.


Hello to all. My name is Michael and I have been floxed twice. The
first floxing was in Sept of '99. Took Cipro 500mg for five days and
lost the ability to speak and walk for most of the first ten days. I
was misdiagnosed with being "bipolar type 2. It took almost three
years to finally recover. In Nov of '03 I had a prostate infection.
Doc prescibes Cipro XR 500mg for ten days. Infection came right back
and extreme joint pain and severe depression came with it. Doc then
prescibes Cipro 1000mg a day for 2 wks and prescibed me a NSAID,
Celebrex, for the pain. As I now know, big mistake! The siezures
started in the last three days of the two weeks on high doses of
Cipro. I ruptured a tendon in my right hand and the tendon in the
arch of my right foot callapsed. After MRI's and EEG's and no
insurance I am now facing bankruptcy and am fully disabled by Social
Security. I was diagnosed with geneeralized dystonia in March
of '04. I have severe speach problems when I cycle into my siezures.
I usually get one week of no siezures and then I have a ten days to
two weeks of siezures. Also have peripheral neuropathy in my hands
feet and groin. I have "electic shocks" daily that run from the base
of my skull down my spine into my groin. We all have our stories and
I'm not here complaining. Its a rough ride at times, but there is no
giving up. I have found a compliment of supplements that seem to
help. Lots of GABA,B1,B6,Magnesium, Manganese. I am getting ready to
start a "Chelation Therapy" next week to try and remove the flouride
from my brain. Its a shot in the dark but i have to try. The only
presciption drugs I take are Ativan as needed for siezures. And 20mg
of Celexa a day.(Mainly because without the anti depressent I am
fully suicidal.) Cipro has a tendency to damage your Gaba, dopamine
and seratonin receptors. That is why so many floroquinolone ADR
victims commit suicide. Sorry I am rambling away. God Bless us all.


19828 From: voices20042003 <voices20042003@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 2:39am
Subject: How much water did you drink with your Flox

I have had left arm pain and left clogged ear since taking Levaquin
for a UTI. Recently I was given 1000mg cipro for stomach flu several
days before driving 1500 miles. Since then pain in both arms
shoulders neck etc. Have taken Cipro several times in the past 3
years for kidney infection. Did not know you should not take it if
you ever had tendonitis, which I did in the right arm. Did not know
you were supposed to drink tons of water while taking it, which I
certainly didn't on a long distance driving trip. So I wonder if the
others having problems like me also didn't know and didn't drink a
ton of water.
I do remember it saying on the package, stop taking if you have joint
pain. Well always having had some joint pain on and off for years,
why would I pay this any attention? They need to give more details.


Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 6:00pm
Subject: Hello wheelchair! --or nursing home

On Sept 23, 2001 I started taking a six week course of Levaquin. On
Sept 26, sudden pain in the hamstring of my right leg almost dropped
me. Despite the situation, the perscribing doctor talked me into
taking the remaining 5 1/2 weeks of antibiotic. In the three years
since, the situation has worsened and affected both legs. I have been
to four surgeons, a physiatrist, two neurologists, a metabolic disease
specialist, and probably some more that I've forgotten. None of them
can find a problem or will they believe the Levaquin connection.
Today I am watching the last vestiges of my ability to walk disappear.
I'm not sure if the doctor will perscribe a wheelchair or perhaps
suggest a nursing home. I should find out in the next few days.
One thing that did (and still does) cut the pain well was
alcohol. Booze had the added advantageous possibility of possibly
causing a fatal liver tumor or cirrosis. Overt suicide is NOT an
option as I have seen families that have never recovered from the
suicide of a family member. There's always so much guilt. But death
from alcoholic liver disease--he did it to himself, right? However,
one problem is that I don't like booze very much and sometime I gag
trying to get it down. I know this is shocking to all of you but
please try to understand that the increasing and unremitting pain has
left me with no options. This morning as I was trying to get out of
bed, I hollered a bit in my pain and my wife yelled at me that this
was the only day that she got to sleep in. I cannot come to grips
with the prospect of things becoming worse. Thank you all for
listening as I consider myself a very weak person.
An old salt



Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 0:26pm
Subject: Tendonitis

Hi Group,
I am new here. I am a 36 yr old male. I had taken levaquin for 7
days 500 mgs for a bacterial infection, (which I told the Dr. was a
candida over growth) now I am on Diflucan.
I have always been prone to tendon injuries, tendonitis. after the
6th day on Levaquin I started having bad tendonitis in my elbows,
archilles, shoulder. I have read hundreds of complaints about
Levaquin. What I humbly request from this group are solutions to get
this CRAP out of my system. Currently I take a wide variety of
vitamines and herbs, I am undergoing a herbal heavy metal detox.
Anyone know the quickest way to recovery from Levaquin? How about
sweating it out? excercise? I excercise anyways, what is the
solution?
Thank you


Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 9:45pm
Subject: Re: Tendonitis

Hi! THanks for your help. I just spent a good deal of time
responding and it never made it to the server.
I went to the Dr. cause I had a swollen/sore throat for 4 weeks! He
thought it was a bacterial infection, I disagreed and told him I
thought it was Candida. Anyways, He perscribed Leviquin 7 days. 500
mgs. At day 6 I noticed my tendons flaring up real bad and my thoat
was no better. I went back to the dr. and had a printed out sheet on
the causes and symtoms of Candida. He said, it could be and then
perscribed diflucan. I also told him that I thought the leviquin has
flared up my tendonitis, he didnt think so, but I am positive it is!
I am on day 2 of the diflucan and I think my throat is getting
better, I say I think, because my elbows hurt so bad I am taking
mobic (an anit-inflamitory) also, my tounge is not as white.
I talked to 2 different pharmisists today and both (different
places) said they have not had a single complaint from leviquin.
They said the 1/2 life of it should be out of me and that all I
should have to deal with now is the tendonitis. I think they are
wrong.
As far as lifting weights go. I am a weight lifter, I usually wrap
my elbows. I believe the lifting helps the pain, I am not lifting
too hard now because of the flair up.
I take 2 b-100's a day + 1500mcg of B-12 + about 10- 15 other
vitamines + MSM, minerals, certain amino's.
I take 500 mgs of magnesium at night before bed, I think thats
helping. I read to take milk of magnesia 2tsp as you said to take it
to. I will buy it tomorrow.
Please tell me how to get this crap out of me, Yes, I will take the
milk of magnesia. How about sweating it out too? accupuncture? Ill
do anything to get rid of this pain. It even hurts on the mobic.
I also ice my elbows, rub MSM gel on them.
Thanks,
Tony


19852 From: margaret_featherstone <margaretfeatherstone@t...>
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2004 0:20am
Subject: acute gastritis

I went to my doctor about a month ago and was told I had a uti, he
prescribed tequin . after a couple of doses i started to get severe
abdominal pain on my right side under my rib cage. after I while it
started to spread to my back. I returned to my doctor and he sent me
for ultrasounds of my liver pancreas and kidney to rule out cancer
needless to say I was scared to death. Te tests eventually came back
and it appeared that everting was ok, however I was still having pain
and now was also having nausea and vomiting. I still never connected
the pain with the fact that I was taking tequin. I was so sick I
stopped taking all my medications. after another trip to my doctor I
found that I had pancreatitis and my colon was inflammed. Iwillnever
again take tequin, I would rather have the uti. has anyone else had
this happen to them


Date: Mon Sep 6, 2004 9:04am
Subject: painful mouth

I am not sure if this is from the cipro or something else wanted to
ask if anyone has any mouth pain when chewing swallowing or opening
your mouth, its developed over the last few days and is just not nice
at all. at least the dizziness and the panic attacks dont bother me
any more I get those symptoms still but I just learn to not freak out
about it.
I eat mostly veggies now some times I get bad and eat some cheese.
since I cannot afford the organic stuff have to take waht I can get
and hope for the best.
The mouth thing is weird since it's only on one side. feels almost
swollen. I can move it alrigt but still hurts to swallow, eat, move
it.etc.
anyone knowwhat this could be?
it hurts to touch the side of the mouth as well.
hope you are doing well


Date: Mon Sep 6, 2004 10:39am
Subject: Re: painful mouth

Laura,
I had a similar problem at the one month mark. jaw muscle pain,
swelling, and tension - like TMJ, I think. Also had tooth problems at
same time, tooth movement,etc. still have minor trouble swallowing,
especially water. I think its the quins, but could be partially
related to excessive chewing necesary for eating veggies.
Substitute organic milk for cheese, don't take the chance!!!
Good luck,


Date: Mon Sep 6, 2004 6:20pm
Subject: Re: Tendonitis - Tony

Hi Tony,
I only took one 500mg. pill of Levaquin. Severe symptoms set in 24
hours later, just as I was due for dose #2 which I did not take.
MCS is multiple chemical sensitivity. I now react very badly to all?
chemicals. these include car exhaust, gasoline, my propane furnace,
new carpeting, building materials, tent fabric, perfume, etc. etc. I
do not react to any natural fragrance at this time, but this is a
slippery slope!
take care, live clean, and be patient,
cjt

Date: Wed Sep 8, 2004 10:55am
Subject: Help ! Am I a New Floxie ?

Hello to all
I took Ciprofloxacin for 5 days along with Flagyl. I have been off
both for 2 days now.
While on it I had side effects like tingling hand (the final day),
brown urine, nervousness, agitation, sleeplessness, weepiness
(emotional one night in particular - I had two bites of my birthday
cake - chocolate, has caffeine I assume).
Now am off it, I have odd things happening, like slurred speech, lack
of left hand coordination, tendons hurt at times in left hand, left
wrist area hurts, more worrying perhaps: Left leg feels like rubber,
like knee could go either way, left foot will not flex properly, left
ankle sometimes hurts and sometimes tingles as if immersed in cool
water, vision sometimes will not focus, difficulty reading aloud and
difficulty pronouncing words, (former English major and always top
grades in reading and pronounciation in grammar school), head feels
odd, neck pain, lower back pain, tried to crack my back and bones
felt like they were not being stopped by tendons, that hurt.

There is almost too much to list.
What really irks me is, I did some research online on the word Cipro
side effects, and was very alarmed and made TWO phone calls to my Dr
to ask him to substitute a regular type of antibiotic and he refused
and even made a sarcastic remark at the end. I don't know why he
would not make another Rx.
I am scared. What if I am maimed by this drug. I am now taking
another regular antibiotic that another Dr on call gave me an Rx for,
after I took the Cipro and Flagyl five days and just felt I could not
continue another day with the fear feelings etc.
I am now trying to eat a lot of Rolaids for the calcium/magnesium.
Pharmacists do not even know of that remedy. If you can call it that.
What else can I do ? Other than worry and pray.
Thanks for any tips and advice. Please try not to scare me more.
Thanks. How do I get this stuff out of my system. I read on one
website just tonight (if I Had searched on the word 'floxies' it had
even scarier stuff and I would NOT have taken this - but I was pretty
ill and the Dr told me taking Flagyl alone was "dangerous" as I asked
that too).
I read on one website tonight that this Cipro causes "Changes in
joints and tendons and connective tissue at the CELLULAR LEVEL." Can
that mean changes in other cells too ? SUch as reproductive ? (IS
there any research on birth defects ? The Dr knew I wanted kids) How
about later cancer risks ? Isn't that one definition of cancer,
after all ??
Thanks for any help. I am pretty scared right now.


Date: Wed Sep 8, 2004 11:24am
Subject: Re: Help ! Am I a New Floxie ?

By the way - I should tell you that I mentioned all side effects and
reasons I was concerned, to my Dr in two phone calls BEFORE I began
taking them. I emphasized my concerns very strongly but he made a
sarcastic remark and would not give me another Rx. He said all his
patients tolerated Cipro "very well". Well if he is not familiar
with any of the side effects and claims that "a website is misleading
you" and so forth how would he know if his patients have side effects
or NOT ? Would he ever make that connection ?
After 5 days on Cipro and Flagyl another Dr on call who answered
after hours gave me a new Rx for a regular penicillin type of drug
but I keep forgetting its name over & over !!!!
I am really getting scared reading some of the letters. My favorite
foods include corn and chicken and I am already allergic to mold and
pesticides. I voiced many reasons I did not want to take the Cipro
and my Dr talke to me like a little kid or worse. It was an
emergency situation and I did not know what else to do so I began
taking it anyway - I was already very weak and sick and did not have
energy to fight or thikn past this much more.

Date: Thu Sep 9, 2004 1:00am
Subject: Ear Problems

Just wondering if anyone has problems with their ears feeling plugged
and hurting, almost like an earache. My husband who is at the 9
month mark since taking Levaquin has been experiencing this for about
a month now. His doctor has him just taking a decongestant but it
doesn't seem to help. He doesn't seem to have a sinus infection
although he took z-pack a few weeks ago because he thought he had one
but I doubt it. One lasting side effect of the Levaquin is that he
has turned into a paranoid person at times. I guess that's what
happens when you feel like crap for so long.
I am so thankful for the improvement that he has made but he still
isn't quite back to normal yet. He has a lot more good days than bad
now. The doctor we found has been so wonderful. It's nice to have a
doctor who believes you and truly wants to help you.
Anyway, just wondering about the ear symptoms. Maybe they have
nothing at all to do with the Levaquin but these days every ache and
pain he has, we blame on that now.
Thanks.


Subject: Yet another one Flox'ed

I'm a 41 y/o male that took Levaquin for 5 days of a 10 day treatment.
The first 3 days of treatment were okay then I started to lose my
taste, had rapid heart rate and muscle aches with extreme fatigue. On
day 5, the intense anxiety and panic attacks started. Went to the
E.R. on day 6 and released with instructions on how to deal w/heart
palps due to anxiety. The ER doc tells me that the pharmacists says
that Levaquin causes confusion but never heard of the other symptoms.
It has now been 20 days and the ADR symptoms are starting to become
persistent with certain foods. I cut out caffiene (day 3-some
noticable improvement). I'm now stopping my wine drinking and I guess
I'll cut out the sugars (been trying to do that anyway). Went out
this morning for breakfast feeling fine (other than brain fog) and had
biscuits-n-gravy w/corn grits. Whoa boy! A couple hours later my
heart felt like I had ran a 5K. Took a few hours to pass and it's now
settled but I have a dull headache. I'm gonna have to watch those
Southern comfort foods :)
What really blows about this whole quinolone deal is that 1) I wasn't
advised of possible ADR by the walk-in clinic nurse practitioner 2) I
could've been given a cheaper tetracyline for my infection (shoot, I
could've gone to the pet store and bought in the fish section w/o
prescription) 3) my family practice doc thinks I'm a hypocondriac and
my wife doesn't comprehend the severity of the situation.
So now it looks like I'm going to have to journal all food and liquid
intake, work with my vitamins (daily Mag, B-complex, multi-vitamin)
and maintain mild exercise and stretching.
I've sworn off the docs for the second time. If I keel over from ADR
complications - God's will be done!
My prayers and thoughts to all fellow floxies!
BTW, why hasn't there been any talk of "class action"?



Date: Thu Sep 9, 2004 7:05pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1654


I have the ear pressure often along with pressure and pain at the base of
skull-neck area. I thought I had a sinus infection also and went to DR. He said
no ear infection or sinus problem but I was also experiencing headaches for a
month or more almost ever since a relapse and worsening of symptoms June 10th.
Facial pain pointed me in the direction of sinus problems, but he said those
were fine. He prescribed a med for tension headaches, which worked well for a
while but are not working now as well. They don't touch the neck pressure or
ears really but they all don't hurt at the same time, really. Why does the
quinolones cause the pressure feeling in the head area anyone know? Ice sometimes
helps momentarily or heat or alternating them. I have muscle spasms and facial
tics due to the avelox I took, my jaw does a lot more motion then it did
before, and this can cause ear pain or lots of tension in the facial and neck area.


Date: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:42am
Subject: Re: Re: new floxie

In my case -
I listed the side effects and how scary they were to me and why this drug was NOT a good one for me. The Dr and his head nurse both were extremely dismissive and the doctor even rude and sarcastic. THey both said oh those don't mean anything those are just the clinical trials they HAVE to mention anything/everything. "This is a very well tolerated drug".
The head nurse said "It might be one person in a thousand that has those things" - I remember thinking "That sounds like a very high number to me."
I am up tonight and my heart and thoughts will NOT stop racing...
Am I to understand this could last for YEARS ? OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL IS THIS STUFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


19895 From: tarzinski <ndavis@w...>
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:23pm
Subject: help ! levaquin side effects

hello - i'm new to the group. i have lyme disease. my lyme symptoms
are headaches, dizziness, joint pain, panic attacks and irregular
heartbeats. so my new lyme dr. put me on levaquin and told me if i
ever started getting very painful joint pains to stop the medicine.
i did ok on it and took it for 3months straight. about a week ago i
was getting so much pain in my feet, knees, etc., the dr. told me to
stop it. as some as i stopped it i starting getting severe panic
attacks, irregular heartbeats, crazier than normal. my body feels
like it went into shock. i first thought it was my lyme symptoms
back with a vengence, but i'm not so sure. i think it's withdraw
from the levaquin. i had talked to a few people who didn't have lyme
disease ( taking levaquin for other reasons ) have the same thing
happen to them. does anyone know of something that might help me
through this detox. my dr. doesn't believe that levaquin can do
this. i see him next week, and i have proof that he can't ignore.
are there any herbs or anything that might help? i swear i can't
believe this.


19898 From: <K-LURE@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:00am
Subject: Re: help ! levaquin side effects


Sorry but interesting info. on Levaquin.... My friend's 77 year old
father was put on Levaquin about a week and a half ago. I immed. told
him to get his father off of it. Of course he did not. The pneumonia has
gone into the kidneys and frankly I am glad it isn't my father. This
older man is a sweet man and I just hope he is lucky enough to be one of
the few who ??tolerate the drug (per his son, my friend)
I don't understand WHY people don't listen to us.
Best of luck to you all. I hope to GOD I get ome insurance. I'm sick as
they say, as a dog, and trying to clean my house in case I have to sell
it.
Pretty disgusting that we are the only industrialized country without
some form of National Health Insurance. Jane RN not working because of
my stupid PCP and not gettng any type of financial
or medical help when both MDs agree I am not well enough to work,but
will not agree on why?? I do think that my PCP is afraid of a lawsuit,
but it would be very hard to prove when the Lyme actually started.
Especially since he refuses to believe it is there. My PCP is one of the
top guys at Harvard Medical School. Interesting?


19904 From: tarzinski <ndavis@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:57pm
Subject: panic attacks and irregular heartbeats

i guess for me the hardest symptoms to deal with are the panic
attacks and skipped heartbeats. i had them before going on the
medicine, it's part of my lyme. those symptoms didn't go crazy until
after i stopped taking the levaquin. i was on it for 3months, and
stopped due to horrible joint and muscle pain. it was like my body
get into shock stopping them. the pain is better, but the panic and
irregular beats are out of control. did anyone find anything to help
you through the panic and skipped beats? thanks again - nancy


19908 From: Blue Velvet <aunt_heap@y...>
Date: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:30pm
Subject: Re: help ! levaquin side effects

Hi;
I have two relatives who have taken or are taking it (one for a simple UTI). Everyone attested that the elderly one had "tolerated Cipro very well" and this is one reason why no one really listened to me on that score, when *I* did'nt want to take it (and I was getting more weak with what I did have, so, had to do something, I thought - now I wonder).
Well it turns out that the elderly relative DOES have peripheral neuropathy as well as vasculitis, and has been given several courses of Cipro over the past 10 yrs due to recurring infections (I don't want to give TOO many personal details cos, as well all know, not all eyes who might read this, are here for a friendly purpose). He began simply falling and those falls have contributed to his health decline. I fully believe those falls and other things are due to the Cipro.
Another relative who's on it NOW for a UTI (this is suppoesd to be a last ditch drug and he could have had a penicillin drug. How do these "doctors" sleep at night putting people at such risk ??) has been told but is rather stubborn yet trusting of his Dr. Not everyone will listen - and when we start mentioning all the various potential side effects they chant the drug company mantra "Listed side effects are only part of a clinical trial, very rare and they are obligated to report everything so that list means nothing - no one REALLY has those side effects". Just like our doctors do. Well, we sent info links and everything and can only hope.

I wish I'd been well enough at the time, to sit up long enough to figure out where to find this group, since if I had read first hand accounts it would MAYBE have been more ammo to go to my "doctor" with to beg for some other antibiotic. But then maybe not. I told him there were many websites about this and told him some of the stories and he said "sounds like you found a website that is misleading you". Well, no as we know. No.
Anyway - the kicker is, like your 'doctor' mine was also out of a MAJOR medical school. I don't want to say more (personal details). But - in a way maybe sometimes, they are MORE arrogant. QUestions - rather than welcoming a pro-active and caring about their own health, patient - are seen as a direct INSULT by them.
So it doesn't surprise me that this 'doctor' of yours was a Harvard grad. The thing is they should know patients are vulnerable and HAVE to trust their doctors. They are too ill to do as much fighting as they need to sometimes.
When I was told with certainty that the elderly relative had had Cipro many times and no problems - that is when I thought OK, what can I do ? I am getting weaker by the day and taking nothing. Of course, we now realise that relative DOES have Cipro side effects.
Part of the problem is the side effects (why does an antibiotic need to change connective tissues at the cellular level ? Why does it need to cross the brain barrier and mess with GABA and dopamine and serotonin ?) are SO bizarre, most people will NOT realise they have been floxed even though they HAVE. Also it seems to mostly be given to middle aged or eldery people - their MDs and they may assume it's part of aging or etc. Or stress. We know it isn't. We know our normal selves, this ain't it.
Until MDs routinely send out a questionnaire after giving their patient ANY drug, to check for side effects even THEY will not truly know, what is a "well tolerated drug". How would they ? What patient is going to come in with psych or heart or motor difficulties and say "it was the antibiotic" - the ones we all grew up on at MOST would give you a rash or vomiting. Or GI problems.
:Sigh: I need to go get some sunshine now and am going to try and attend church. ALthough I will have to wear sneakers due to my feet still not flexing properly.
But I mean - WHAT are our doctors doing risking us having all those things plus - seizure disorders etc. (by the way - IF those show up - WHEN ? and what indications ?) for a simple UTI etc. There is NO reason on earth. Unless they are getting BIG kickbacks for doing so - which ought to be fully illegal. Conflict of interest.
"First, do no harm" !


19929 From: cjt2202 <cjt2202@y...>
Date: Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:05pm
Subject: Re: Ear Problems

Hi,
I also have these ear symptoms with low level tinnitus in addition.
I would guess the Z-pak caused this escalation. Can you relate the Z-
pak to the ear pain? I would like to know in case I need an
antibiotic in the future.
Post 19827 outlines the diet I maintain to not get worse in a hurry!
good luck.
cjt



19938 From: <K-LURE@w...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:09am
Subject: Re: irregular heartbeats -other experiences

Hi All, Spent last night in the ED of a Worcester Hosp. With my issues
of Lyme Late stage with cognitive problems, it made things even worse.
I moved to the countryside, about 1/2 hour West of Worcester... My
friend from the Boston suburbs came to help me clean the place to
downsize as have lost over 4 years of work. I have only this friend from
1971,helping. My friend did not understand that all of the places to
buy a bite to eat out here close at 9PM.
So, we had to go to Worcester. God what an expensive pizza, LOL, Try
really hard to keep my feeble SOH!!!! We were walking along and he was
in a srint mode as he has not been floxed, does not have Lyme and CFS
and fibromyalgia .
The only reason I went to the ED is because I have very bad
osteoporosis from the brain tumer the
charming MDs let go undiagnosed for 5 to 7 years according to my
neurosurgeon . I had levels of Prolactin ,a growth type hormone, in the
mid to high 200's....Should have been single digit.I tripped on a piece
of a roadsign that NEVER should have been left there. Approx. 2 inches
high and in a dark part of the sidewalk.
Bottom line is if one of us has any accident, It is very hard to know
what's floxing pain, fibro, or Lyme and what is NEW s/p accident pain.
Before the RN gave me a shot of Pain meds, I let them know where
the pain was in order to Xray the right areas to look for fracture. Just
an FYI for all of us still full of pain . WORST PAIN NOW ever. s/p the
fall .So
before they give you IM pain meds, write out a list of new areas.(not
easy to do) The jerks still refused to xray my left knee that was
edamatous and bleeding. They xrayed the less painfull knee.Refused
soulders DUH. annd OUCH, Jane, unable to work and feeling awful in all
ways.Seeing my PCP later today.jk



19941 From: chiggins1066 <chiggins1066@y...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:36pm
Subject: Re: help ! levaquin side effects

I just say my GP Thursday. We talked about the quinolone reaction,
and he said "want to see something scary?" And proceeded to show me
all the side-effects associated with Singulair and other drugs. I
immediately stopped him and said "no, you don't understand. Those
side effects go away when the medication is stopped. The side-effects
I'm talking about are debilitating and long-term."
Doctors think all drugs have nasty side-effects, but only a tiny
number of people get them. We need to tell our doctors, and everyone
we can, that there is a big difference between an adverse reaction to
Tylenol, and an adverse reaction to Cipro. The doctors are not being
insensitive -they honestly don't know what's going on, and the
pharmacutical reps are lying to them.
I call Avelox "a lawsuit in a bottle" -and that's what it is becomming.


19943 From: Fran Salomons <fsalomons@y...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: help ! levaquin side effects

Hi, haven't posted in awhile. I live in western Canada and was floxed late Feb after 7 days of Cipro, then 7 days of Levaquin for a UTI. I was hospitalized twice for the adverse effects.

Six months later, the anxiety and panic attacks have gone away but from time to time I still have sore tendons in right knee, right heel and right wrist. When I eat certain things, most of which I still cannot pinpoint, I have tingling (much like when dental freezing comes out) from head to toe on my right side.
Magnesium, B12, alpha lypoic acid help as well as SAMe. I absolutely refuse to take any more medication especially since I got a pulmonary blood clot in 1996 from a low dosage estrogen prescription.
There is life after being floxed but it takes a long, long time. It does get better.


19960 From: Randy & Mary Roethler <fish@i...>
Date: Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:19pm
Subject: Fw: Rapid Heartbeat

Last summer my doctor prescribed Propranolol for the rapid heart beats and the anxiety. He didn't believe what I was experiencing was anxiety. He believed I was suffering from adrenalin rushes. Doesn't matter who was right, the propranolol helped me sooo much. I only take them when I am experiencing the rapid heart beats and anxiety. The dosage is 10mg.
I know how scary this all is, I still become frightened I will die when this happens and it has been 1 1/2years since I took that horrible drug Levaquin. One important thing is I am improving, it has been a slow process, but I am able to drive again and to go out in public alone without having major anxiety problems. I'm not sure if I will ever be the same again but I am a survivor. One thing I didn't do is go to a doctor for the anxiety. My husband and I discussed what would happen if I did, and we both decided I would probably be given a prescription for anxiety and we both decided to wait it out and not to take any more medicine. I am glad I waited it out.
I have found out the symptoms seem to resurface after eating chicken and can pop up for about a week after. I have decided it is time to completely cut out this food to see if it makes a difference. I have also quit drinking anything with caffeine.
Good luck

19964 From: mistervnv <bu2@s...>
Date: Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:28am
Subject: Eye Problem and TIA Like Episode

I took 500 mg dose of Levaquin for 27 straight days for a chronic
prostate inflammation/infection. Actually other drugs as well. The
side effects were not that bad except for some anxiety.
Toward the end of this period I had problems sleeping, more anxiety,
some light pain in the eyes, some sensitivity to light etc. Iasked
for the Levaquin to be discontinued and I am not taking it anymore.
A couple of days before it was stopped around 11:30 p.m., still up,
I "saw" a broken line in my left eye. Then I noticed a wave or a
vibration on the left side of the left eye. Not so much physical
somehow in the space. Tried to lie down in a semi dark room and
the "wave" became a rotating light in the same spot. The shape of
diamond. This lasted 5 minutes I think. I felt lousy and as if I
were going to faint but didn't. My wife called the ambulance.
By the time the two young medics arrived, 15 minutes or so, I felt
better and the symptoms were mostly gone. They checked me out a bit,
thought I might have experienced a TIA (mini stroke) and took us to
a hospital emergency room.
I was checked for a variety of things and we left the hospital
around 3:30 in the morning. Soon after an ophtalmologist checked my
eyes. A borderline pressure in the eyes(news to me)but otherwise
okay. I also had a Carotid Doppler test and an ECO Doppler test and
thank God they came out clean. They were looking for blood vessel
blockages in the neck and around the heart.

Only I and the technician performing the ultra sound tests (Doppler)
thought it was the Levaquin. Nobody else thought so including the
pharmacist, my family doctor, the urologist, the ophtalmologist, the
two medics, and the attending physician et the ER. But in the light
of all the tests TIA looks unlikely I think.
Anyone out there had Levaquin related symptoms that looked like a
mini stroke i.e. Transient Ischemic Attack (TIA)?
Thanks.

19966 From: sprucegoose365 <adnil@o...>
Date: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:47pm
Subject: Re: Eye Problem and TIA Like Episode

--- In quinolones@yahoogroups.com, "mistervnv" <bu2@s...> wrote:
>I have had episodes just like you described that they diagnosed as
a "visual migraine". There was no pain like a regular migraine, and I
have never had one of those. These visual things started many years
ago, prior to my Cipro poisoning and I have had a couple since. They
are very frightening, but I have learned to just wait for them to go
away.
My visual problems related to Cipro were light flashes around the
periphery of my vision, quite like those experienced in a retinal
detachment. In fact, immediately after the Cipro symptoms started I
had a "vitreous detachment". But the symptoms were nothing like
those of what was diagnosed as a "visual migraine".
Hope this helps. Linda


19972 From: Blue Velvet <aunt_heap@y...>
Date: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:31am
Subject: OK to take penicillin after Cipro ? & other questions

Hi
I was given Cipro for diverticulitis. Discontinued it after 5 days.
I will stick to my new questions:
Will my hands wrists ankles and feet ever stop hurting ? Oh and where the calf connects to the ankles. And the thighs connect to the hips.
I laid down on my stomach tonight to watch tv and it felt like my legs were going totally numb and also no matter what I am doing that pins and needles, hurting feeling in all the above.
But also I am very VERY weak almost all the time - today went to a health expo hoping to find some answers. Have run a slight temp and am afraid that my diverticulitis might still be hanging on so we asked for (another Dr) to Rx some penicillin family antibiotics. Cos my diverticulitis infection can be a real problem if left untreated too.
BUT I do not want to make my Cipro ADR worse. I've had a host of problems for that and am still undergoing tests to rule out whatever I can (any suggestions there ?).
Is it OK to take another antibiotic after Cipro ?
Oh and what is with the funny, pressure on back of head and pressure on top of head, feeling. It's weird. I am still on totally organic foods and nothing else, but, symptoms not going away. They come and go in severity I guess. I'm keeping a diary as best I can.
Then when I am about to fall asleep boom my body jerks. I never did that before. Dr (another new Dr) said that is normal. But it's weird too - I don't know what to think.
Oh and Sat. when at the health expo an eastern medicine practitioner, gave me a Ph strip test - (PH strip in mouth) he siad normal PH is 6.7 (perfect PH I mean) and mine was in 'very dangerous territory' - a four or a four point five. WHat does this mean ??
Please try to keep answers positive as possible and not to scare me further. But, I do not know who else to ask. No doctors seem to have even heard of Cipro ADR or even know its side effects ! I tried listing some of its side effects (from Bayer's own literature) to one Dr and he just looked at me like I was talking about martians. I know the Dr who Rx the Cipro to me doesn't know cos he denied all the ones I listed (which I had gotten from various websites - and I told him of some of the tendon snap stories too). He said those only happen during clinical trials. Well what is a trial if not a report on real people's experiences.
The eastern medicine guy who said my PH was really the lowest one (a cancer patient earlier that same day had one two levels higher than mine, he said) only said that Western doctors have no way to measure organ energy and they give very toxic medicines to help and it's worse than the illness etc. And that I had almost no energy (coulda told him that though). Anyone know what low PH means ? (And I don't need to hear somehting like "Yeh - you're up a creek".) I mean can anyone give further info or enlighten me at all on things.
Does the pain in hands and feet and legs etc. ever go away ?
Thanks for any insight. PLEASE, try not to overstate or to scare me more. I am doing my best to hang in there emotionally.
Thanks.

19984 From: Justin <jjmg@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:29pm
Subject: Re: Eye Problem and TIA Like Episode

Yeah, I have similar kinds of visual disturbances and in my case they
were diagnosed as "optical migraines" even though I had never had
anything like them before being floxed -- nor have I ever had a
migraine headache.
I also have sensitivity to bright light and loud sound, although not
quite as bad as when I was first floxed (June 2003).
- Justin

19989 From: k_desalvo <k_desalvo@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:22am
Subject: Skin crawling?

Recently with the nerve pains, I've been getting this feeling like
something is crawling on me. Anyone have this problem? My
dermatologist tried to give me olanzapine.
Kevin


19999 From: <apcoz33@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:26pm
Subject: Levaquin side effect tendonitis

Hi Group,
I have not been on this forum in a while but appreciated all teh
help I received. I took 500 mgs of levaquin for 1 week. I took my
last levaquin about the 31st of August that makes it 3 weeks ago. I
had bad mental & confusion tendonitis in my archillies and elbows. I
still have tendonitis in my elbows real bad. All other side effects
seem to have cleared.
I have 2 questions for the group..
1. Is there any evidence that quinolones can cause a drop in
testosterone or affect the testies?
2. Are cortizone shots recommended for the tendonitis? I dont want
to resume the anti inflamitory meds such as ibuprofeb because of an
impaired liver.
Thank you,
Tony




20017 From: sp da <spyrodas@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:14am
Subject: Re: Rapid Heartbeat

Hello,
For me it took 1 1/2 year to see an improvement from
the adverse reactions due to quinolones.
I had fibromyalgia, chronic fatique syndrome and hurt
palpations. I went to the cardiologists and he
diagnosed a (proptosis of Metroidous), i don't know
how this is named in English, which has something to
do with the fuction of the valve of Metroidous. It is
not something serious but I have the suspicion that it
is an andverse reaction of quinolones
Finally after 1 1/2 years all my symtoms dissapeared.
But i know from what i read in this site that the
severity of the symptoms depend on the age, the good
healt conditions before the use of Fluroquinolones,
and the sex. It is a tendacy that women, aged persons
face much more problems than men, and young people.
take care
Spyros


20020 From: Aimee Gibson <andersonaimee@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 25, 2004 0:57am
Subject: first letter - How is Everyone Doing?

Well, nice to meet everyone. Strange how we all ended up here. I
wonder who you all are, what you do, and how we ended up being the
unlucky ones to find ourselves in this very scary and very tragic
circumstance.
I have been TOO AFRAID to get on a support forum because I have been
too afraid to talk about what is happening to me for the past 11
months. The professionals I talked to all basically pooh-poohed my
contention that this had to do with cipro and levaquin I took last
fall.
Prior to taking the drugs, I was extremely fit and healthy. I
prided myself on rarely even getting a cold even though we might
have a house full of sick kids. (We have 7)
I have not taken anything to relieve the symptoms because I am
scared to death to take any prescription drug after reacting to the
cipro. I ended up in the hospital 3 times in a weeks time
immediately after taking cipro and was given levaquin in the
hospital even though I told the doctor's I thought I was reacting to
cipro.
Anyway, here it is almost a year later and I still have periods of
feeling very, very bad. Anxiety, tingling, numbness, fuzziness in
the head.
The good news I can pass along is that I no longer have heart
racing, or at least it is very mild and infrequent. I also am not
having panic attacks which were super scary, and I have many good
days. I take this as a sign that I will get better.
I try to imagine my nervous system healing itself every time I start
getting the tingles or feel my tongue or lower lip get numb. I try
to ride the wave of symptoms keeping in mind that they will subside
either later today or maybe while I'm sleeping.
I'm fortunate in that I sleep well most of the time. I know alot of
you have had trouble sleeping. As for me, when I have a
particularly bad day, I can't wait for bed time because I don't have
to worry about the tingles when I'm sleeping. I can only hope I'll
feel better when I wake up.
If there's anyone out there who can give me hope or support, please
do!! I'll try to do the same. I just want to be able to talk to
someone who doesn't think I'm crazy.
Thank you all,
Aimee


20021 From: ÒÖμá <kavin740316@y...>
Date: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:05am
Subject: tinnitus six months ---help!

hi everyone
i was severly poisoned by levaquin,now the other sympthom such as
night sweat\heart beat fast\knee pain\dizzy have dissapeared,but
tinnitus remained,mainly in my left side head,it is a high pitch
hissing,very painful,sometime i got fatigue still,i used to be a
very strong young man ,only 30,it is said that tinnitus will never
gone,i am so depressed,i want to die,it is such a....monster,i would
persuade everyone from taking the levaquine,i have not work for so
long,i don't know how to finish my rest life,please help me,if you
know some antioxident,please,i can't stand it,please dont tell me
just to live with it ,i have been told such words millions of times
reguard
kavin

20024 From: mistervnv <bu2@s...>
Date: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:21pm
Subject: Re: first letter - How is Everyone Doing?

--- In quinolones@yahoogroups.com, "Aimee Gibson"
<andersonaimee@h...> wrote:
> Well, nice to meet everyone. Strange how we all ended up here. I
> wonder who you all are, what you do, and how we ended up being the
> unlucky ones to find ourselves in this very scary and very tragic
> circumstance.
<SNIP>
Hi Aimee!
Thank you for your message. Yes it is scary and tragic but at least
in our two cases it appears we may have got away with it relatively
cheaply.
I had a private message from a person whose case is a thousand times
worse than mine. Mind you I took Levaquin recently, it is possible I
will discover other unpleasant side effects yet.
I still get anxiety attacks but they are milder. My right elbow
still aches. Left knee too. There are other things including a bit
of trouble with my eyes. They are dry, I got a bit of pain, some
sensitivity to light. A doctor at the eye clinic sad I had a border
line pressure in my eyes which I have never had before. I will be
seeing my ophtalmologist soon. I have a sporadic tic on the right
side of my upper lip. Sleeping has improved but it is not back to
normal. I get moments of confusion and weakness too.
I took Levaquin 500 mg dosage for 27 consecutive days as part of a
drug cocktail to treat an inflamed (also maybe infected) prostate.
It has not solved my problem. What scared me was a TIA like episode
that landed me in an ER. Also my pulse was erratic at times as well
as a number of other symptoms in addition to what I already
mentioned.
When I started complaining about side effects of, obviously,
Levaquin - Mr. Hyde said he would give me Cipro. I refused. He has
since changed his ways and now Dr. Jekyll is sending me for a bunch
of tests. Also he told me to take vitamins, Uva Ursi (herbal) tea,
pure cranberry juice, Kefir (Russian style yogurt) etc. Yep, the
same guy.
The thinng is, like yourself, I am finding it difficult to convince
anyone in the medical profession that it all was from the Quinolone
based drug. What worries me the most is the eyes and the TIA which I
believe was a (temporarily) detached retina. The doppler tests I had
on the carotids and heart came back negative although it is possible
I am wrong and they will find something else eventually.
I stopped taking Levaquin about two weeks ago. Things have improved
although my initial problem for which I was treated is about the
same.
What I really wanted them to do was to establish that I am not in an
immediate danger and do not have cancer. Beyond that a pain killer
would have been sufficient. At the moment I am trying to get second
opinion.
You are not crazy. Your suffering is real and undeserved. These
turkeys suffer from some kind of blindness or denial when it comes
to drugs. My urologist now does accept that Quinolones are not for
me.
Being a woman you have to be a little more forceful when dealing
with doctors. Tell them what you want. Don't accept everything
meekly. I did not know this, I learned it from a much suffering
friend of mine.
When my wife complained to me about getting crummy treatment by
doctors I mentioned it to my (former) family doctor. That is, I said
how women do not seem to get proper treatment from the doctors. He
had the nerve to tell me that "people get the treatment they
deserve!"
So, just keep on and God willing it will all pass soon and you will
be well again.

20025 From: ruffin144 <ruffin@a...>
Date: Sun Sep 26, 2004 0:28am
Subject: Re: first letter - How is Everyone Doing?

Hi everone. I too suffered a very bad reaction to Levaquin. I had
severe back pain, left leg numbness, left face numbness, left arm
numbness, almost immediately after the first dose. I already had a
backache and did not put 2 and 2 together for quite sometime. My
muscles starting twitching and burning. I had buzzing and vibrating
sensations in my calves. My feet hurt to the point I had to untuck
the sheets to try to sleep. My eyes were sensitive to light. My neck
tendons and eyes hurt so bad I could barely look up at the 4th of
July fireworks. A couple of weeks after taking seven 500 mg pills, I
could not walk. My achilles tendons and every other tendon in feet
and lower legs were inflammed. I did not realize you had tendons
in lower legs too. It took about 12 weeks to get those to where I
could walk and not hobble. My shoulders and shoulder blades are
inflammed now. The tendons really hurt. My tongue does weird things
like tingle and feel like it has been working out. It is sooo sore
at the base of it. This has been going on for 3-4 months. I am
better, but still not well. I still have buzzing and vibrating
sensations and burning muscles. I sometimes can barely lift my
arms. My shoulders are killing me. I have tried to get back to my
regular life and now I am paying for it. My muscles have starting
twitching again-- all of them. Not just an eye or lip twitch.
Feet, legs, shoulders, arms and hands. Everywhere. My jaw and neck
tendons are flared up now. I cannot for the life of me figure out
what sets this off. I have not taken this since the 12th of June. I
get cycles of symptoms. I felt really good 3 weeks ago. Now I keep
having symptoms. Hopefully it will go away again. At least I can
walk now. I started taking Trazadone 25 mg at night a couple of
months ago and it really helped me sleep and not be quite so
worried. I hope we all get better soon.
Michele

20045 From: Laura <lparker30@c...>
Date: Wed Sep 29, 2004 0:29am
Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia

I was diagnosed with epstein barr virus or "mono". lol that was what
I origianally thought was wrong they told me I had that and also had
a bladder infection that would not goaway even thoughthey loade d me
up with pill after pill. I get little weird alost like scab marks
that resemble moles but are not still not sure what exactly they are.
Just turned 21 this past august and I feel like im 800 lol.
my eyes get blood shot sometimes doesthat happen to you?
they gave me tequin in the hospital on one occasion.
and Cipro by prescription on another occassion, ha lucky I could not
afford the Tequin pill since I did not have any insurance.
the anxiety and paranoia is the worse I swear if I could make myself
stop obsessing about germs and disease I would feel better at least a
little bit.
hope you get better soon. =)

20047 From: robf_769 <robf_769@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:27pm
Subject: Hi, from a new member.

Hi everyone,
I just found this forum yesterday sitting around the house while
recovering from surgery. After reading some of the posts here
(besides tendon ruptures)I didn't realize that there where so many
potential side effects from the quinolone type antibiotics. About 3
years ago because of an earlier botched left sinus surgery I was put
on an almost 6 month long course of Avelox, Cipro, Leviquin, & Tequin
for an infection, I've had trouble sleeping since then. What got me
looking for more information was on Tues the 21st while getting out
of bed my left leg gave out below the knee, I went to an orthopedic
surgeon the next day and he diagnosed my pettela tendon ruptured. He
repaired it on Fri of the same week, other than the quinolone
antibiotics he could not see or find another reason for this rupture.
I can now look forward to 6 to 8 weeks of healing time and then what
ever therepy I need to get my strength and range of motion back.
Has anyone here besides me had a tendon rupture? Is there any legal
recoarse for our problems?
Thanks in advance.
Rob

20052 From: <margaretfeatherstone@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:48am
Subject:

I took tequin for a uti about 2 months ago, I had insomnia, panic attacks and
severe depression. most of the side effects seem to be going away. I now have
something new happening to me, I had my gallbladder removed almost 20 years
ago, but lately I have been getting pains at the site of my incision on my
right side. It is a kind of burning, pinching feeling on my skin, almost like
an electric shock in my nerve endings. clothes rubbing against it bother me. I
have never had anything like this before and woder if anyone has had anything
like this, could it be a torn muscle or something like tendonitis in the
abdominal muscles. If anyone has ever had a side effect like this , please let
me know what I can do to make it stop. margaret